When Michael Jackson tragically passed away on June 25, 2009, the world was stunned. As fans continue to pay tribute to the King of Pop four years later, Michael‘s family members have their own quiet ways of honoring the memory of their son and brother. Michael’s father, Joe, and his sister La Toya recently spoke about him over an intimate lunch, opening up about their still-present ache over Michael’s death and sharing stories from the Jackson family past.

“I remember being a little girl and how hard you worked the brothers. And Michael,” La Toya says to her father. “I know you did a lot making sure they brought out their talent… they would never know they had that talent today if it wasn’t for you.”

“One thing about Michael…” Joe begins. “I miss him so much.”

The famous father tells La Toya that he’s still surrounded by Michael’s music whenever he steps out in public. “Every store I go into, if I’m there a while, he’s going to start singing,” Joe says. “Everywhere I go.”

In the video, La Toya shares her own memory of her younger brother, revealing the little-known talent Michael picked up from Joe as a child.

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